In this short conversation, my dear friend Winston Janusz and I discuss the root of human disorder. As I said in my book, Ecological Awakening, I feel we have to deal with the source of our problems and not just try to fix individual symptoms. 

Winston has a Master of Divinity degree and is a licensed therapist. I, Morgan Caraway, am a published author and natural building instructor who has written numerous books including, The Book of Leaves: Reflections on Dying and Change, and, Blessed Disillusionment: Seeing Through Ideas of Separation.